Wednesday, July 16, 2008

It's all about Pull Ups these last couple of days

Well Pull Ups and questions from Adrienl

Adrienl has left a new comment on your post "I haven't plagerised the answers to these question...":

thanks for answering those questions will, just got a few more
1) i haven't yet seen you use a jump before a strength exercise so would you say this is a more advanced exercise and what would you be looking to acomplish through it? (eg give strength boost through more explosiveness or get better at pushing through fatigue)
That's because I actually need to have a full time cameraman and blog writer in the gym with me because I actually have to work and don't get to capture the best action unless it is quiet.
It isn't necessarily a more advanced exercise. It is just different...when it next appears in a program and I remember to do so I will film it for you. I never do jumping before or after lifts while the athlete is 'really' fatigued.


2) in regards to testing are these planned out weeks ahead(the athletes therefore knows they are coming) or are they announced on the day?
They are planned out before in that athletes will know when they have a testing week. They do 6 weeks between full tests and at the end of 3 weeks have a mini test. Which is a 3RM box squat, repetition effort bench at body weight and a 3RM pull up....I have written about this before....you are obviously not paying attention to what I write....don't worry though...neither am I.

3) what is the average time between testing for athletes and after performing the tests do they just head home or do they do extra work?
See above.

thanks again and don't hesitate to tell me if i am getting annoying

No problem and you are getting annoying. Don't let that stop you asking more questions though.

I just wanted to post Rammer's because he did pretty well in the over 100kg class today.



He had a pretty good day testing wise with a PB on the bench, pull ups and deadlift.

13 comments:

Michael Sullivan said...

Heffernan you are getting soft(er) in your old age. Did you actually let Rammer kick his way up on the pull ups? Crossfit he we come.

Anonymous said...

They were good but looked more like kip ups than pull ups. The video only captured the top third of his body and you could still see his knees in several of those.

Anonymous said...

Hey Will,

What are the all time pull up records for guys youve trained?

Im assuming when you said in the other post that 19 was a record that may stand for a while, you meant for that particular group for that season/training phase.

Will Heffernan said...

Michael Sullivan said...
Heffernan you are getting soft(er) in your old age. Did you actually let Rammer kick his way up on the pull ups? Crossfit he we come.
No kicking off the bottom but I don't mind you kicking at the top...and it has always been the same.

Anonymous said...
They were good but looked more like kip ups than pull ups. The video only captured the top third of his body and you could still see his knees in several of those.
I've never seen anyone test with super strict form and I was too scared to be the first.

Anonymous said...
Hey Will,

What are the all time pull up records for guys youve trained?
Can't remember off the top of my head the best ever exactly...23 reps rings a bell.

Im assuming when you said in the other post that 19 was a record that may stand for a while, you meant for that particular group for that season/training phase.
I sure did.

Joel Hallström said...

The pullup movies are always fun, though ive said it before, id like to see some other testings then just the pullups.

Will Heffernan said...

Joel Hallström said...
The pullup movies are always fun, though ive said it before, id like to see some other testings then just the pullups.
The only reason that there are so many pull up clips is because it is the one that is always argued over so I always film it now. There's never any argument over squats, deadlift or bench...you get it or you don't. Like I said...the problem is I'm usually have my hands full. I might have to get someone else to start filming stuff.

Will Heffernan said...

Joel Hallström said...
The pullup movies are always fun, though ive said it before, id like to see some other testings then just the pullups.
...and by the way...stop bloody whinging and pick a weekend to come over and you can watch somebody test for yourself and you can film it while your at it so I can put it up and won't have to listen to any more complaints.

Joel Hallström said...

Wtf haha im not whinging! :) Im most definitely coming over, any particular week you would prefer/not?
Other than that, ive never been to dublin, so I have a few other questions, like where exactly are you located at in dublin? (ive tried to find it on the blogg but I must be an idiot) do you happen to know of any good cheap accomodations near the facility?

Will Heffernan said...

Wait until the the seasons kicks off and you can come and make some use of yourself. We might pick a weekend where we have a home game and I'll organise some sort of coaching/training get together for the Sunday. If anyone else would be interested in attending let me know. If you have any suggestions as to what sort of material you'd like me to cover then let me know that as well. Maybe Mimo, Sami and the Ian's will attend. Match and drinks and dinner on the Saturday and I'll put together a presentation for the Sunday and basically tell you everything I know about coaching...and we should be finished by lunch if I can drag it out that far.

Michael Sullivan said...

Will Heffernan said...
No kicking off the bottom but I don't mind you kicking at the top...and it has always been the same.


I think that may be the dumbest thing you have ever said and that is saying a lot. What the feck is the point of the test if a little cheating is OK? Why not bounce the bar off your chest when benching, use knee wraps when squatting, Dan John hump the bar for inverted rows?
When we tested in Utah you said each pull up had to done from a dead hang and kicking was not done by any of the people testing not even you.

I would like to put in a formal protest to the testing committee and would like to revise the testing numbers I submitted. Add 3 pullups to my score, 4 inverted rows and 25kg on squats.

idiot.

João Mimoso said...

Will Heffernan said...
Wait until the the seasons kicks off and you can come and make some use of yourself. We might pick a weekend where we have a home game and I'll organise some sort of coaching/training get together for the Sunday. If anyone else would be interested in attending let me know. If you have any suggestions as to what sort of material you'd like me to cover then let me know that as well. Maybe Mimo, Sami and the Ian's will attend. Match and drinks and dinner on the Saturday and I'll put together a presentation for the Sunday and basically tell you everything I know about coaching...and we should be finished by lunch if I can drag it out that far.


This is a very good idea,Will. If i can, i'll be there for sure

ian said...

Will said...
We might pick a weekend where we have a home game and I'll organise some sort of coaching/training get together for the Sunday. If anyone else would be interested in attending let me know.


Will - you've got mail.

Adrienl said...

Will thanks for that and a few more if you don't mind
1) so the athletes just do the full testing then go home correct?
2) also with athletes who have a long offseason eg (4+months) do you ever see the need for a deload or does the changing of focus( eg stregnth to fitness) provide it for you? If the former how would you be implemnting them after a strength or fitness type stage?
3) do you ever bother deloading your normal people or do they not really warrant it due to the lower intensity?
just realised that deloads cost you money so maybe you never bother with them ;)
thanks again for your time and patience